Palestine: UN-made by the UN

After World War II the Japanese, Germans and Italians were not forced out of their respective countries to make room for any Ethnic or racial group to replace them. By contrast, the Palestinians were warred against and forced out of their homes and homeland by a Terror State, Israel, and its allies. The UN was nothing but a fake instrument to give Israel the semblance of a legal state. In that context, while real, it is illegal, even some Jews agree.



The United Nations continues to be a forum for the powerful and their veto flexing.

Obama's speech at the UN is the equivalent of 5 kneelings and 100 hail Mary s to AIPAC, the Washington DC based Israeli lobby.



Word/phrase count/mention in Obama's speech to the UN:


2 Palestine
18 Israel    


At 2 to 18 dear Mr. Obama, it is hard to see any "Hope" for "Change" in the US, AIPAC sponsored, Foreign policies towards Palestinians.




1 Israeli and Palestinian (children)
3 Bahrain
3 Egypt/Egyptians
9 Libya/Libyan
9 Syria/Syrian
5 Iraq
2 Iran/Iranian
5 Afghan/Afghanistan
3 Osama Bin Laden
2 Tunisia
0 Saudi
0 Jordan
12 United States 
1 refugees
1 Jerusalem
0 illegal settlements
0 my grandparent's house in Jerusalem
2 Jewish people
1 "exile and persecution" (Jewish)  
0 "exile and persecution" (Palestinian)
1 "six million people were killed simply because of who they are"  
0 six million people were displaced because of where they were
0 refugee camps
1 "America’s commitment to Israel’s security is unshakeable"
0 America's commitment to Palestinian security
18 war/wars
43 peace/peaceful
1 rockets(Palestinian)
1 suicide bombs
0 cluster bombs
0 Lebanon
0 napalm
0 targeted killings
0 Mass murders/Deir Yassin/Sabra-Shatila/Qana

With US presidential elections approaching and AIPAC (Israeli lobby) testicular hold on American politics and politicians, and Average Citizen Joe's indifference, and Arab leaders' preoccupation with their positions of power, it would take divine intervention to change things for the better for the Palestinians.. the sacrificial lamb! Or the Palestinians would have to learn how to scratch their own backs.

Middle East Abnormality

The state of Israel is a Middle East abnormality that the US helped give it a legal status through the UN. What is abnormal about Israel? The abnormal part is when you take a country, Palestine, that is under a mandate of a powerful nation, England, and sanction its ethnic cleansing and get a world body, the UN, to approve it. That is abnormal. If full membership of Palestine at the UN is accepted, then the road to Israel becoming "normal" would be open and yet the Israelis oppose it. Why?
The Palestinian Authority's (PA) upcoming request of the UN for statehood recognition of a Palestinian state based on June 4, 1967 borders would by one account be considered as a recognition by the Palestinian Authority of Israel, at the same said borders.
If recognition is what Israel wants out of the Palestinians, well, here it is and yet Israel and the US government, and some Europeans are fighting it. Apparently the 1967 borders do not serve Israel and the Americans always echo the Israelis.
If the Israelis wanted peace they could have accomplished it with the Palestinians after 1967. But they did not want to give up 1967 territories then and they do not want to give it up now.
UN resolutions for the right of return are in place. This is the core of the issue. If the Palestinians are willing to give up parts of Palestine, it would be for the right of return. It is not the other way around, the land was never Israeli before 1948, so any talk of Israeli concessions on land is just plain nonsense. However, the Israelis would not abide by these resolutions. Negotiations with the Israelis have added to the Palestinian losses. What the Palestinians want to lose are the refugee camps and the refugee status. They simply do not want to be "assimilated" by Arab countries as some Israelis suggest.
The upcoming US elections affects the Palestinian quest for freedom, but how? The situation plays into the hands of AIPAC as they manipulate the house and congress in ways to optimize the benefits in Israel's favor. They are positioning for a presidential candidate who can better serve Israeli interests with the US elections and candidate selection process underway. So with that in mind, decisions made on the UN-Palestine issue are affected by the dynamics of US elections. Again, it plays on appeasing the number one concern of American politicians, and that is Israel and the Jewish vote in the US elections.
For the PA and the Palestinians, going to the UN for recognition as a state might actually be more beneficial to the Israelis than the Palestinians. Again, by their request to be recognized at the 1967 borders the Palestinians recognize Israel and its 1967 borders and in return, as no good deed goes unpunished, get the US veto. But the Israelis seem to be holding out for more lands and settlements, water rights and whatever else they can impose on the Palestinians via so called "negotiations". So, what's a Palestinian to do in a lose-lose situation?
The Palestinians should think like the Israelis and negotiate in kind.  First, forget the UN, nothing good came out of it in favor of the Palestinians' homeland aspirations. No one or nation seems to be inclined to enforce any UN resolution pertaining to the return of Palestinian refugees, and the Israelis are hoping that in time these claims and rights would fizzle out. The only words the Palestinians should remember from the UN are "Partition" and "Refugees". And then for instance, they could declare Palestine, all of it, just saying, and show willingness to negotiate... negotiate how many Europeans, Russians and Americans would be allowed to remain as they are all considered illegal aliens who in most cases entered Palestine illegally, and certainly many of them are terrorists. The Jewish terror that was brought onto Palestinians is well documented, just "Google".
Absurd one might say and I agree...but, well, so was the idea of establishing the state of Israel in Palestine, a country under a British mandate then (1948), a mandate that was sanctioned by none other than the UN itself. And to go to the UN for recognition.. that, is more absurd.

Ignorance or Propaganda?

AIPAC links to JPOST but most commentators make up their own facts and logic, if you want to call it that.   Hardly any objectivity on the part of most.  Some of the commentators ought to visit not Yad Vashem but a living multi generational Palestinian refugee camp, one of Israel's higher accomplishments in ethnic cleansing.  

Some people just don't get it!! 

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[AIPAC – The American Israel Public Affairs Committee


PM: Palestinians doing all they can to avoid peace talks
www.jpost.com
Netanyahu meets with Belgian PM Leterme; says he is willing to go to Ramallah for peace talks; decries Palestinian bid for recognition of state at UN as a plan that will only push back the peace process.
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14 people like this.
Owen Rockett Appeasement doesn't produce peace. Strength is the only legitimate way to peace.
about an hour ago · Like ·  3 people
Jeremy Ryan Well that's probably because the want to "push the Jews into the sea" as they say. Peace hurts their chances for genocide.
about an hour ago · Like ·  1 person
Kolawole Salami Seems sensible as 'peace' talks over the past 30 years have only resulted in wider Jewish settlements
about an hour ago · Like
Ethan Borst honestly, i dont care anymore, im not contributing
about an hour ago · Like
Jeremy Ryan Settlements in places like the "west bank" more accurately referred to by its historically correct name Judea named after the Jews who settled the land before any poser palastinians tried to act like it was their land when actually they are Jordanian Arabs masquerading as a nationality based on the Philistines who don't exist as a nation any longer. The bottom line is the Arabs have the whole middle east and Mecca. Leave the Jews what they earned in the six day war, a war they did not start by the way, and stop trying to claim u only want the land when we all know u want to kill all the Jews. Anyone who thinks this is about settlements or land is missing the point.
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Robin Nicholls I must have missed something. What changed since PM Netanyahu made his magnificant speech at the US Congress when he stated very clearly o the world you can't make peace with any group that wants your total annhilation (or something to that effect). Israel doesn't have a oeace partner with the PA...G-d help Israel & Bless all its leaders with wisodm & courage.
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Kolawole Salami ‎@Jeremy Ryan. If living in a place by force and genocidal terror is what appeals to u, u can continue with that delusional line of reasoning. Swapping archaic history for today's reality. The purpose of God for His creatures is for us to live as one in peace, not some people segregating themselves as Jews or Arabs, black or whites.]

AIPAC – The American Israel Public Affairs Committee

PM: Palestinians doing all they can to avoid peace talks

www.jpost.com

Netanyahu meets with Belgian PM Leterme; says he is willing to go to Ramallah for peace talks; decries Palestinian bid for recognition of state at UN as a plan that will only push back the peace process.

714 ·  ·  · Share · about an hour ago

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  14 people like this.
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    Owen Rockett Appeasement doesn't produce peace. Strength is the only legitimate way to peace.
    

    about an hour ago ·  ·  3 people
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    Jeremy Ryan Well that's probably because the want to "push the Jews into the sea" as they say. Peace hurts their chances for genocide.
    

    about an hour ago ·  ·  1 person
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    Kolawole Salami Seems sensible as 'peace' talks over the past 30 years have only resulted in wider Jewish settlements
    

    about an hour ago · 
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    Ethan Borst honestly, i dont care anymore, im not contributing
    

    about an hour ago · 
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    Jeremy Ryan Settlements in places like the "west bank" more accurately referred to by its historically correct name Judea named after the Jews who settled the land before any poser palastinians tried to act like it was their land when actually they are Jordanian Arabs masquerading as a nationality based on the Philistines who don't exist as a nation any longer. The bottom line is the Arabs have the whole middle east and Mecca. Leave the Jews what they earned in the six day war, a war they did not start by the way, and stop trying to claim u only want the land when we all know u want to kill all the Jews. Anyone who thinks this is about settlements or land is missing the point.
    

    50 minutes ago · 
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    Robin Nicholls I must have missed something. What changed since PM Netanyahu made his magnificant speech at the US Congress when he stated very clearly o the world you can't make peace with any group that wants your total annhilation (or something to that effect). Israel doesn't have a oeace partner with the PA...G-d help Israel & Bless all its leaders with wisodm & courage.
    

    42 minutes ago · 
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    Kolawole Salami ‎@Jeremy Ryan. If living in a place by force and genocidal terror is what appeals to u, u can continue with that delusional line of reasoning. Swapping archaic history for today's reality. The purpose of God for His creatures is for us to live as one in peace, not some people segregating themselves as Jews or Arabs, black or whites.